Published 20 Feb 2026
Duration: 2662
The podcast discusses the evolution and advancements of the Spring Framework, its shift towards modern approaches, and its integration with AI, reactive programming, and other technologies.
This conversation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025. https://gotocph.com Rod Johnson - Building the future of agent frameworks at Embabel Arjen Pou...
The podcast explores the evolution of the Spring Framework, focusing on its shift from XML-based configuration to more flexible, modern approaches that have supported its success in the microservices era. It discusses the Mable framework, which extends Spring to handle agent flows and integrates with Spring AI for managing large language model (LLM) interactions. The conversation also delves into reactive programming, its future potential with virtual threads, and Spring's dual support for both servlet and reactive models.
Additional topics include the increasing impact of Java language features and advancements in the broader Java ecosystem, such as collaborations with Oracle and tools like GraalVM. The discussion touches on broader Java development trends, including the rise of functional programming, Spring's role in enterprise environments, and the integration of AI and natural language processing capabilities. The podcast also considers the emergence of low-code and no-code platforms, data privacy concerns in AI, and the importance of Java developers understanding AI fundamentals.
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